My observation: Could this John Rooney be a brother to "Daddy Mick?" John's descendants coincident…

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My observation: Could this John Rooney be a brother to "Daddy Mick?" John's descendants coincidentally fit into the Michael and Catherine Rooney line when a granddaughter married married a Daddy Mick Rooney grandson: Ellen E. Rooney (1872-1902) married Thomas T. Rooney (185 4-1925).

I emailed Tim Ahles to ask him what he knew.
Tim says: "The Ellen Rooney that married Thomas T Rooney (grandson of Daddy Mick), is from the Rooney branch that we often refer to as the "Avon Rooneys." Ellen's parents are William Rooney and Bridget Hartigan. I do not have any records of Ellen's grandparents, but they might be the John Rooney and Helen Hennigan that you mentioned. We have often suspected a connection between our Rooneys and those from Avon but have not yet proven it."

Best online tree so far seems to be "Mally."

March 24, 2017 email from Randy Rooney:

David - the DNA match with Evie [Rooney Kukowski] is a grandson of George Steven Rooney. Below is what they have in their tree for Rooney males.

Ellen and Thomas T. would have been 2nd cousins, if John and Daddy Mick were brothers.

"Avon Rooneys":

John Rooney, b. ~1796 in Ireland, d. Avon?, m. Helen (Anna) Hennigan

John had two sons:
2. a. John Rooney, b. 1834 in Quebec, d. 1859-1860 in Canada
2. b. William Rooney, b. 1841 in Quebec, d. 1914 in Avon, m. Bridget Hartigan

William had four daughters (including Ellen "Ellie" who married Thomas T.) and one son:

  1. John Patrick Rooney, b. 1871 in Avon, d. 1942 in Stearns Co, m. Alice Keenan

John Patrick had four daughters and three sons:

  1. a. William Edward Rooney, b. 1897 in Stearns Co, d. 1980 in Stearns Co, family unknown
  2. b. Daniel John Rooney, b, 1900 in Stearns Co, d. 1972 in CA, family unknown
  3. c. George Steven Rooney, b. 1904 in Avon, d. 1969 in Los Angeles

George Steven had two daughters, one is the mother of the DNA match with Evie - which still needs confirmed if it is due to Rooney DNA or someone else. The match is with "T.R. (administered by kathleenriedel1)," if you want to check your results. I have contacted Kathleen, and she is supposed to be passing on my contact info to a Rooney aunt of her husband, T.R.

April 11, 2017

I now have my own match to a descendant on the Avon Rooney branch, Andrew Minzghor! We are 5C1R and share 7.2 cM of DNA on one segment, and no shared matches (even though I think Tim Ahles independently matches him). His line, as he shows it: Andrew > mother > father > Agnes Cecelia Voit (b. 1908) > Gertrude B. Rooney > William Rooney.

John Rooney is in the 1861 Canada census at Rigaud, Vaudreuil, Canada.

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